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09/15/2006
Switching from Emacs to PyDev...
I gotta admit I was wrong...

I recently tried out Pydev and Pydev extensions on Eclipse 3.2 for my
Python and Zope developments. Wouah !

I've been using these plugins for couple of weeks and I already can't
switch to emacs anymore. I wouldn't have believed It could have ever
happened. I've been using emacs for years and somehow refused to try
out any IDE for Python because I thought it wasn't as crucial for
Python development as for other languages such as Java, C#, C++
etc....

I love this feeling. I mean when you find out a tool and are wondering
how you've been living without it for so long that you can't go back to
the old one :) I'm in this case with emacs. I simply can't
anymore. (Well, I could but you see what I mean)

Pydev really brings a lot.  I was surprised by the progresses made by
Fabio on the Pydev front and especially what Pydev extensions bring
related to code completion.

I let you check out the screencasts to get a quick overview if you
don't have time to install and play with it (or you are not convinced)

For Zope development there are some things I'm missing that require
some command lines beside Pydev. (Or these are maybe some things I
didn't find since I'm relatively new in Pydev development)

  •  Support for zope.interface

      This is a bit annoying since pydev doesn't recognize
      zope.interface and thus shows errors on those classes. I might
      even dream about a full integration checking the Python classes
      implementing interfaces such as in Java. And yeah, I'm still
      dreaming about builtin Python interfaces but eh wait ... Python
      guys don't want that...I need to stop dreaming...

  • Support for doctests

      Pydev doesn't support doctests. Although, you can run external
      commands from Eclipse. I'm using them to specify a zope.testing
      based tests.py as external command and I get back the result in
      the eclipse console. It would be a plus if it could directly run
      them from the Eclipse as doctests as the other Pyunit tests.

  •  Python specific package browser

      Here, I'm especially talking about the refactoring. Move and
      rename you can find in the Java package manager. So that you can
      rename module names and don't worry about changing the references
      in other Python projects in the workspace. Or still move modules
      with the same behavior. It really does ease the refactoring in
      Java.

  • Zope server plugin

  • Debugger integrated with Zope


To sump up, Pydev and Pydev extensions rock. It's really promising and
it addresses a huge lack related to Python development.

Please don't tell me about other Python specific IDEs since this is
not what integrators are expecting. They already do have Eclipse on
theirs boxes all over the place so they just want a new Eclipse
plugin. (and they are right) Another industry reality. I guess IDE
war is over ... as well.

I guess Éric is going to like this post ;)
Posted by Julien Anguenot @ 09/15/2006 09:58 AM. - Categories: eclipse, python -  0 comments
Last modified: 12/21/2005 01:11 AM

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